A New Approach

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Postby lorelei » Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:05 am


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Postby zacxpacx » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:02 am

The statements I made weren't meant to suggest that learning perfect pitch is impossible for adults. They were just conditional statements communicating that if adults cannot be prompted to activate the correct areas of their brains when listening to sound then they cannot learn perfect pitch.

On the other hand, if they can learn to activate the correct areas of their brain, then learning perfect pitch becomes a very likely possibility. If an adult without perfect pitch can be shown to activate the areas of his brain commonly associated with perfect pitch while listening to musical sound, I think more scientists and researchers may begin considering the possibility of adults learning perfect pitch. Certainly, demonstrating that we can activate the perfect pitch associated areas of our brain suggests learning perfect pitch is possible. The inability to do this implies the opposite: perfect pitch is impossible to teach to adults.

It would be interesting to see if APA activated the correct areas of the brain. In fact, presenting sounds in different contexts to find out what presentation of sound activated the correct areas of the brain could be a guiding step in developing categorical perception of chroma. There's only so many ways sounds can be presented to an individual (I made a topic Tools of the Trade about this, but my list may not be complete) and if none of those methods of presentation activate the correct areas, perfect pitch is impossible to teach.

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Postby zacxpacx » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:15 pm


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Postby aruffo » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:41 pm


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Postby zacxpacx » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:51 pm


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Postby zacxpacx » Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:03 pm

Another Email for Chris

Is testing whether or not your premises are valid too time consuming? Is that why you're vying for the breakthrough route?

Of course, inducing categorical perception would be a substantial enough breakthrough. It may not be musically applicable initially, but being able to recognize pitch in categories and to name pitches would be an unprecedented achievement. But inducing categorical perception also seems a very daunting task. Without effort or attention our minds must automatically perceive the pitch of all sounds we hear as belonging to 12 distinct groups.

On the other hand, if trying to teach categorical perception leads to a dead end, I do think MRIs would prove useful. If you really do believe chroma are the crux of perfect pitch, then I think showing that playing APA activates the perfect pitch regions of the brain would be convincing evidence that it could be taught.

What do you think?

-Zachary M.


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